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Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:43 pm
by alexlong
Hi, François.
There is a request from a 4pda user. He works as a surveyor and he uses AlpineQuest in his daily work.
So he says:
If you just define the area, then the "create area" tool completely pays off. And in my work, when creating an outline, it is necessary to indicate the measurements of all lines with the indication of the footage and azimuth + the area of the given section. There are two AlpineQuest tools that do this perfectly. First, I make "measurements" (distance + azimuth), then I adjust the "area" (area) to these measurements. But it would be great if these two actions could be performed with one tool.
The idea is to add an additional feature to the
Measure tool, Placemarks → Create a placemark → Measure.
To add a kind of "Close loop" tool so that users could calculate the area of the figure when taking measurements.
The option is on:
AlpineQuest creates a figure as well as it does when making an area but with distance and azimuth values + area and the figure becomes closed (the first point is the last one)
The option is off:
AlpineQuest creates an ordinary measurements (the figure is not closed).
Thanks in advance.
Re: Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:05 pm
by Psyberia-Support
Hi Alex,
I understand the need.
However the measure tool is really something to measure, not to create an area. There is already the "Create area" tool. I think if would be better to improve this one rather than add various ways to do the same thing...
So here are two solutions I can see. One available right now, one I can do in the future.
- First solution (available in current version): use the "Create area" tool.
* Move over the first location and open the create area tool. Check "Draw".
* Then click on the magnifier icon at the right of the "Create area" title. This opens the search dialog. Select the "Distance/Bearing" format and enter the values you want, press ok.
* The map view moves over the new location and the area is drawn automatically.
* Instead of "Draw" you can add the locations manually (press "add location" after using the search dialog).
- Second solution (can be added in the future): add the ability to convert placemarks from one type to the other (it has been requested multiple times so this is something I want to add).
It would allow this:
* Use the measure tool as it is right now. The result is a "Route" placemark.
* Click on the measure route, and in the menu choose "Convert to..." -> "Area". It transforms the "Route" into an "Area" (and close the outline).
Let me know what you think of this.
Re: Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:43 pm
by alexlong
Hi, François.
I will discuss this with 4pda users on the forum. I will ask a question to the user who wanted this feature.
Re: Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:03 pm
by alexlong
Hi, François.
We talked about it on the 4pda forum (
https://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&show ... =103245960 ). People say that the solution # 1 does not look convenient and ask for the solution # 2 though so far the way how it will work is not very clear.
They say that my proposed solution looks good but you know better so let's have a look at the solution # 2 – the ability to convert placemarks from one type to the other.
Re: Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:59 pm
by Psyberia-Support
I've just published beta version 2.2.8.r6818 with solution 2 added.
Re: Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:05 am
by alexlong
Thanks, ww'll try it.
Re: Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:54 am
by alexlong
It works!
Thank you very much!!!
Re: Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:21 am
by Psyberia-Support
Hi Alex,
In the next beta there will a a solution #3.
With user settings, you'll be able to change what information is displayed at the screen center for each kinds of creators, so you'll be able to display distance and bearing information when using the area creator (like it's displayed in the measure tool). For this example, you'll be able to use this:
Code: Select all
landmarks.creator.areas.center_texts.distance=true
landmarks.creator.areas.center_texts.bearing=true
Here are all the new settings:
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landmarks.creator.routes.center_texts.distance=
landmarks.creator.routes.center_texts.bearing=
landmarks.creator.routes.center_texts.diff_elev=
landmarks.creator.routes.center_texts.slope=
landmarks.creator.slopes.center_texts.distance=
landmarks.creator.slopes.center_texts.bearing=
landmarks.creator.slopes.center_texts.diff_elev=
landmarks.creator.slopes.center_texts.slope=
landmarks.creator.measures.center_texts.distance=
landmarks.creator.measures.center_texts.bearing=
landmarks.creator.measures.center_texts.diff_elev=
landmarks.creator.measures.center_texts.slope=
landmarks.creator.routings.center_texts.distance=
landmarks.creator.routings.center_texts.bearing=
landmarks.creator.routings.center_texts.diff_elev=
landmarks.creator.routings.center_texts.slope=
landmarks.creator.areas.center_texts.distance=
landmarks.creator.areas.center_texts.bearing=
landmarks.creator.areas.center_texts.diff_elev=
landmarks.creator.areas.center_texts.slope=
Re: Measure tool suggestion
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:02 pm
by alexlong
Hi, François!
Waiting for next beta!